The Great Ecstasy of Robert Carmichael details
|Starring:||Ryan Winsley, Charles Mnene, Lesley Manville, Dan Spencer, Danny Dyer|
The Great Ecstasy of Robert Carmichael
|Run time:||1 hour 38 minutes|
|Rental release:||19 Feb 2007|
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Remembered for the Wrong ReasonsBy a customer from England , 21 Feb 2007
[Highly rated reviewer]I saw this film in Brighton at a film festival in Dec 05. i was surprized that it ever made its way in to the public realm. Any positive comment comment i can make on the acting skills , cinematography, or any other objective strand of the film were completely evaporated by the two stomach churning, rape scenes. In its original format the implied gang rape scene was around a hideous and inexplicable 20 mins long . Which had various people leaving the cinema in disgust. The final scene, another group rape and coupled with some gratitious violence, again unesessarly in its length, to communicate the actions of the gang. The whole scene was shot from a voyouristic point of view and put us the audience , in the position of becoming the fourth gang member watching from the corner of the room. The film closes with the gang skipping away across the fields at dawn, with no conscequences for there actions.
After the film concluded the the director, and producer were brought in front of the audience to do Q and A. The audience, stirred up and emotional, wanted some explanations for what they had just been confronted with. Sadly the young director and producer couldn't really articulate there reasoning for the work, in particular there grotesque treatment of the female characters. This inability appeared to contribute to the sickness of what we had just been witness to. The Q and A was drawn to an early close before they were lynched by a shouting crowd from the balcony.
Personally i found this film utterly shocking and frightening and it upset me for a few days after. The alleged intention of the makers of this film were that by constructing the shots in this manner, would bring the audience to understand the horrors that are part of the reality of war, as opposed to the diluted media coverage we see on the news reports .
The effect of this made me feel like i had been witness to the actual horrifying ordeal of the rapes of these women.
If you dont enjoy the sick treatment of others and ever want to feel comfortable visiting newhaven again, give this a miss. and lets hope the inarticulate makers of this work get a proper job
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Vapid DullnessBy sandy666 (104 reviews) from Reading , 13 Aug 2013A not particularly interesting 'slice of life film' which follows a bunch of lads around Newhaven who have nothing to do apart from take dodgy drugs and commit crime. The Robert Carmichael is as absent from the film as the plot. There is graphic violence, but Kubrik, Tarantino and Danny Boyle have managed films with scenes that are just as graphic and not bored the audience to tears. A vapid, dull film that says nothing new, or particularly interesting. Watch Trainspotting or Clockwork Orange instead.
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The rape did not take placeBy AlnBeth (3 reviews) from Brighton , 23 Mar 2013Most rapists don't get a convicted but that hardly makes the headlines and doesn't seem to upset the general public. Two rape scenes in a film about the banality of evil, that leads viewers to feel complicit in the scenes does. Make up your own mind. The acting is fine and reflects the depressing boredom of the film makers view of a small town (the real Newhaven is not really like this of course, but neither is Meadows' Nottingham or Matlock). If you're upset by my title it is a reference to Baudrillard's book 'The Gulf War did not take place'. In this book he argues media portayal of the war means it occurs at a level removed from those who took part in the war. I'd say the same of this film - that is not to justify the rape scenes but to take a removed gaze from them. And again i will question why this film upsets people but rapists get away with it. The film itself is actually quite atmospheric in a cold and emotionally traumatised way, and yes it portrays that traumatised human condition quite well, unless you mistake the latest blockbuster for the real condition. But in the opposite direction, the whole town is portrayed as this traumatised. Outside the purview of your television set the world just ain't like that. But that is this films gaze. However this real world that is neither a cold, traumatised place, not the latest blockbuster IS a world where people are shocked by the fictional portrayal on their TV of a rape (a portrayal that is not glorified unlike the death and carnage and for that matter day-to-day misogynist patriarchal relations in your average blockbuster) but not by the fact that women get raped every day and the rapists rarely get convicted. The rape did not take place... Of course the Gulf War that the director of this film alludes to really did take place (as do thousands of rapes without conviction), however the real Gulf War was the overwhelming defeat of a defenceless (unless you still think there were weapons of mass destruction) state by superior strengthed forces with lots of missiles. Even if it was portrayed on our television as the virile conquest of righteous forces. Get it yet? If not there are plenty of manly action movies, that you may prefer (that or Sex and the City).
Awful and stomach churning endBy a customer , 23 Mar 2013Made my stomach turn at the end, other than that it was a less than average film with no real story line.
If you're expecting Shane Meadows-esque magic - move onBy Elliemoo (6 reviews) , 05 Mar 2013I love a bit of controversy, so I thought I would definately make my own assesment as to whether this film was as objectionable as some claimed. I have to say that although the disturbing scene is everything that is says on the tin, as others have pointed out, worse has been committed to celuloid, however my issue with it was that it was inconcruous with the storyline. The layout and timeline of the script is patchy, we are introduced to characters at random intersections which never actually culminate into a woven story. The broken narrative is then shot through with two scenes which are as disturbing as they are bizarre as the protagonists decent into moral mire is not really believable. He just isn't a very well developed character. Disappointing
mmmm, kind of iffyBy a customer , 02 Mar 2013Seen worse lol. Mind you not much worse. The end scene was abit sick but its nothing special. Worth 1/12 stars at most though this film.